Tribe.net. Local Connections Avoué d'Arras et Bellonne http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/df8a087c-68c3-4eaa-96fa-efcb58bc2088 2009-10-03T09:52:39Z 2008-10-21T13:50:10Z

<div>First published by Klaudio Zic Publications, 2008, www.lulu.com/astrology. Copyright © 2008 By Klaudio Zic. All Rights Reserved. No part of this material may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or otherwise, for commercial purposes or otherwise, without the written permission of the author, except when permitted by law. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>Have you been dating the wrong sign? <br/> <br/> <br/>MARRIAGE SIGN <br/> <br/> <br/>Your relationship is based on your true natal sky. <br/> <br/> <br/>Copyright © 2008 by Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://www.lulu.com/astrology <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>MARRIAGE IN SECONDS <br/> <br/> <br/>My florist predicts marriage while packing flowers for her clients. Thus, her clients get to know when they will be married, within an informal chat. They have no need to go to the astrologer, who would hardly be able of such a feat. How can this be? The florist in question is one of the many people we have met and taught a simple calculus in minutes. They are not astrologers at all, and are therefore able to perform a little calculus, as well as tell the Sun sign for anyone they meet. The florist in question can tell you all the loves in your life, if you stop at her shop for twenty minutes. On several occasions, people like the local butcher, have framed and determined the whole life of a surprised client and astrologer, who got pinned to the point in minutes while the butcher packed the order. <br/> <br/> <br/>FLORIST ASTROLOGY <br/> <br/> <br/>Now who is the astrologer, the butcher or his client? Another famous astrology writer received his initiation from a florist, while on holiday. When he asked her if she were an astrologer, she smiled sheepishly, as she has never seen an ephemeris, natal chart or personal computer. She does things by heart. From the heart of the corner florist and into your ears. Anyone can know the year and month, also day and hour of his or her marriage. That is done in seconds as it does not require special astrological knowledge. What we have to present here is an elaborate introduction in elementary astrology, not the one you will find in the newspaper, but real sky astrology, genuine as the flower and fresh bread. In reading forth you will be baking your flowering future. It took twenty minutes to make an astrologer from our florist. It will take twenty minutes to read the following essay. Read it particularly if you are not interested in astrology at all. The less the interest, the greater the knowledge. Read it if you hate astrology. Go forth and read it. It was written on purpose in order to save your children, life, marriage, health and stocks. <br/> <br/> <br/>TWO SIGNS OF ERROR <br/> <br/> <br/>Your natal ascendant and Sun position may play tricks on you. Having a false personality bears heavy on one's back. In order to enjoy a healthy living, accurate scanning of the natal planetary positions is paramount. After being told that tropical astrology offers one sign of error, one goes to sidereal or even eastern astrologers, only to be fooled again. The error is not one sign as popular magazines inform, but two signs. <br/> <br/> <br/>TWO SIGNS SHIFT EXAMPLE <br/> <br/> <br/>Taking that superstition has been more or less standardized through various programs that calculate planetary positions, we assume that the programs more or less agree on each other, having 12 ascendants and 12 zodiacal positions. It is, however, interesting to compare the results of such programs with the real sky. Here is an example. One our client has been told that she is “Scorpio” with “Capricorn” ascendant. While both constellations are clearly misspelled, one inspects the real sky in order to determine the true positions of the client's natal planets. Capricornus clearly can not rise at east at this epoch, thus one does not need any scan in ordine to determine nonsense. The scan shows Sun in Virgo along with Pisces ascendant. Everybody can perform this experiment, using any astronomic tool. They have been cheating on you all of the time, passing unqualified data under your nose while swindling your karma and daily life with two signs of error. You have been dating the wrong sign. They will tell you that in the west you are this and in the east you are that, but you can easily prove to anyone of them that they are liars who never knew how to determine the position of the natal Sun for themselves. <br/> <br/> <br/>CAVEAT EMPTOR <br/> <br/> <br/>Consider making a horoscope for yourself, using any astronomic program or inbuilt planetarium, rather than ruining family life and your child's career with dangerous superstition. Always consult NASA Sun ephemeris. We posted these ephemeris and also published several animated displays of the real skies on http://lulu.com/astrology Mail us at klaudio_zic@yahoo.com and you will receive data directly from the NASA server. <br/> <br/> <br/>SCORPIUS <br/> <br/> <br/>Here is a strip of the NASA Sun ephemeris. Sai Baba has been born on November 23rd with Sun in Libra. “Oph” stands for Ophiuchus. <br/> <br/> <br/> 2008-Nov-23 00:00 Lib <br/> 2008-Nov-24 00:00 Sco <br/> 2008-Nov-25 00:00 Sco <br/> 2008-Nov-26 00:00 Sco <br/> 2008-Nov-27 00:00 Sco <br/> 2008-Nov-28 00:00 Sco <br/> 2008-Nov-29 00:00 Sco <br/> 2008-Nov-30 00:00 Oph <br/> <br/> <br/>The Sun spends only a week in Scorpius. Now we were born on Nov 28th. Guess our zodiacal sign? <br/> <br/> <br/>MEDICAL ASTROLOGY <br/> <br/> <br/>Whoever wants to have the wrong organ cut may continue to believe in the astrology as presented by popular newspapers. It is greatly assumed that people go to the astrologer for fun, but what if they pay serious attention to advice? They will have the wrong organ cut out on the wrong day and hour in the wrong month or year, where there was no need to cut anything at all, as Neptune was not in that house. <br/>HOUSE OF MARRIAGE <br/> <br/> <br/>Neptune was not in the other house either. Starting with not knowing where the Sun is, is an excellent introduction in general chaos where madman takes advice and counsel from madman. The poor fellow is tossed forth through Chinese, Mayan, Indian signs and across an array of specialised tarots in order to reach the end of the month penniless and confused. The chief of the London Astrology Lodge emerged from the gypsy's tent confused. Even an excellent astrologer like him could not know it all. At the time there was no zodiac, ascendants were rambling around and planets were tossed at random from house to house. Not one house system was working. Imagine how many cases of divorce issued on account of Neptune in 7th that was in fact in 6th. Latitude was unknown and major errors made in further prediction. Some tarot initiation would help the gypsy, providing that she can set 40 years apart for the first card. Fortunately, the gypsy wrote no books, to our best knowledge, blessed may improvise futurity in Heaven. <br/> <br/> <br/>DATING <br/> <br/> <br/>Now when two people meet, errors multiply. When a Scorpio/Capricorn meets a Virgo/Aries, the issue is gloomy, as hopefully not depending on astrology. They will marry anyway. If children are healthy, crops abundant and prosperity widely spread before the couple, initial astrological errors can be discarded with meticulous “even the wrong system works for us” nonchalance. <br/> <br/> <br/>WHO ARE WE? <br/> <br/> <br/>We determiend the zodiac and ascendant set. The Academic Zodiac is the great zodiac of our time, the first scientific zodiac that we ever had. Apart from the 22 zodiacal stations, a second set of precessed ascendants guards the angel guardian at east from superstition and false astrology. Your true personality is based on your true natal sky. The implications of zodiacal reformation as we approach year 2012 are vast as concern its application in masonic ritual, national heraldry and holy architecture. To begin with, UNICEF will help every child to true natal skies for everyone. After more than 5000 years, we have finally taken off the chains that bounded us to false identities as spelled by false ascendants, sun signs and impossible planetary positions. Zodiacal reformation is art of the planetary exorcism as speeding evolution towards Mayan 2011 or 2012. <br/> <br/> <br/>FORBIDDEN SCIENCE <br/> <br/> <br/>The LORD forbade Chaldean calculus for several obvious reasons. This ancient superstition was inaccurate. The Chaldean ascendant was fixed to an unmoving sky, lacking precession. Some of the ancients believed in unmoving skies with 12 fixed ascendants. If that would be so, we would never have precession. False ego is from the devil, as prone to every kind of superstition, like the 12 ascendants, a popular nonsense in which many believe to this day. The victims of misinterpretation can blame authors like Ptolemy but no blame can be attached to immaculate Hipparchus. Hipparchus strongly rebuked the “astrologers” of his time, who stole into the marketplace armed with a sheet of outdated knowledge. In order to cheat on their customers, “astrologers” invented a nonsensical string of apparently learned expressions, by which they were hiding a simple truth: they were never able to determine the position of their own natal Sun. <br/> <br/> <br/>DETERMINING THE ZODIAC <br/> <br/> <br/>In order to discreate false ego, we inspected the zodiac and ascendant set for different epochs. The scan was done in twenty minutes with primitive tools. In these twenty minutes, the zodiac was determined. The set of ascendants took less than five minutes to determine. Moses was an Egyptian initiate who knew how to count the constellations. He no doubt inspected the Orion cycle as main nether ascendant in ancient Egypt. The zodiac has 22 constellations, while the eastern ascendants for the current epoch are only 16 in number. The Hebrew alphabet is thus compatible with the zodiac, much as popular Tarot games fall in the category of 22. A separate set, a sort of Minor Arcana, was devised to serve as ascendant set. This set has a total of 88 cards, but in various epochs it served as partial set of e.g. 16 or 36 cards. The court cards of the Tarot may thus represent the set of ascendants for the current epoch. Thoth gave us only three Tarot initiations, and for good reasons, while the 4th and 5th are still being written. Previous epochs, when the Art flourished, had towards two dozen ascending constellations at due east. It is in one of these epochs that we established our intent, interest and basis for Egyptian initiation. <br/> <br/> <br/>NO MORE HEROES ANY MORE <br/> <br/> <br/>Newspapers dedicated to superstition will quote each other on the so-called vernal point in Aries, where the Sun is imagined as rising in Aries at spring equinox. At this epoch, Aries does not rise at east, at all. Having “Aries ascending” in one's horoscope is pure fancy. Aries did ascend, through, at the time of King Arthur, when men were brave and castles rammed, in order to free the lovely lady and true mind from the dragon and local tyrant, false ego. Knights born with Crater ascending would join the Holy Grail pursuit. <br/> <br/> <br/>THE AGE CETUS <br/> <br/> <br/>The Sun not only does not rise at east in Aries for spring equinox, but it can be argued whether it rises in Pisces at all. There is a thin line between Cetus and Pisces as determined by the IAU standards, with little stars and proofs as to the real constellation the Sun is in. Cetus has three zodiacal sections through which e.g. The Moon is driven on its serpentine way towards Aries, where Pluto sinks into Cetus and towards Eridanus or where Earth co-orbitals and Eris meet. Pluto can have a conjunction with Eris in Cetus. One of the main occasions in which astronomers surely had a hearty laughter was when someone proclaimed a kind of “rulership of Pluto in Aries”. Greenwich must have roared with laughter when some “astrological lodge” in the neighborhood proclaimed “Pluto rising in Aries”. The poor astrologers or whatever they were never knew that Pluto never enters Aries. The asinine astrologers of our time will surely have Eris in Taurus, another impossible position. One must pardon people for not knowing how to calculate the position of their natal sun or lacking money for a ticket to Greenwich. After all, we are all only human, prone to make mistakes. Pluto sinks into Cetus from Aquarius, heading towards Eridanus. Pluto never entered Pisces or Aries and never will. Already this reliable astronomic fact is enough to debunk “astrology” as dangerous superstition for the masses. A clever child will come to the same conclusion, and disallow any influence from authoritative superstition. And if it is hell to go through, let him head the words of Sir Winston Leonard Spenser Churchill: “If it is hell you are going through, keep going.” <br/> <br/> <br/>PLANETARY EXORCISM <br/> <br/> <br/>In order to ram one's mind into focus, one either stops thinking, like fishermen often do, or concentrates, like Bobby Fisher often did. Whatever “method” is valid as psyche falls off in order for true mind to emerge victorious. All superstition is based on psyche roaming the psyche. The psyche can not analyse itself, as it was exclusively forced unto one in order to enslave one. Only the hero can free Andromeda from chains and Cetus below, false ego. The superhero in Aries checks Cetus as Lamb of God. All fairy tales and myths are centered upon the simple fact that Adam is enslaved and liberation hard to achieve against a strong, unknown and slippery enemy, the devil. Freud called it psyche. <br/> <br/> <br/>CATALOG OF ERRORS <br/> <br/> <br/>It would take folio volumes to produce an entertaining reading for astrology lovers, in which all the facets of this superstition are ridiculed as faced with scientific facts. We love astrology and pardon its mistales, but to some extent we feel asinine in following just every bit of nonsense that brave men added to this fascinating field of human knowledge over the eons. How can one prove a rainy day to a believer who soaks wet but believes that it is sunny? False ego is not even dealt with, it is discarded. We never analysed all the facets of superstitious astrology, as we clearly determined the zodiac, in order to have a reliable scientific field in which to work with accuracy. <br/> <br/> <br/>As nobody cares for accuracy in superstition, the muddy waters are being muddled even more, thus soon we shall have Spica Virginis entering “Scorpio”, while this star has spent ages in Libra, as afforded to her by the fancy of asinine astrologers, who slam planets here and there according to their bizarre fancy. <br/>Spica Virginis gives the magic flavor to one of the longest zodiacal stations, Virgo. Where else would Spica Virginis be as main star of Virgo constellation? It is obviously in Virgo. Astronomers do not shift this star anywhere else. Why should they? They are dealing with the real sky and are surely not bent to cheat on us. Precisely because of their honesty, they are shunned by “astrologers”. <br/>The zodiacal error as presented to the masses is not only two signs or two constellations. Two signs of error are just the beginning of a long series of errors that we can not possibly enumerate in our lifetime and beyond. From a couple of basic errors, all other errors stem in succession. The most serious error was that we never had a zodiac. Nobody cared to scan the zodiac. Astronomers apparently never needed one, as they remain disinterested in zodiacal or ascendental classifications, quite obsolete in modern astronomy. Astrology was a funny pastime as based on coffe table belief in 12 rising signs that serve as zodiacal constellations or signs. Since astrology never entered the field of science, any superstition served fairly well for entertainment purpose. If there was a time when astrology was taken seriously, we must look towards the first examples of Egyptian synastry. That has been done and reestablished in a refreshed initiate system, as included in the RTRRT or Real Time Reality Rendering Tools, a historical name for a set of instant magick techniques. Exorcism can start with consulting the NASA ephemeris for the Sun. One will find that e.g. the Sun is in Libra on November 23rd, Sai Baba's birthday. <br/>The ascendant is determined by the eastern star, or guardian angel. At the present epoch no one can have “Capricorn”, “Scorpio” or Aries ascendant. <br/>If “Capricorn” is determined by one of the many quack programs in use, then it is probably Pisces rising at east. Whoever feared one's own “Capricorn” ascendant may relax, as Capricornus, the proper spelling, does not rise at east at this epoch. <br/>If they have told you that you are “Scorpio”, relax, because you may be Virgo. <br/>Orbs were invented to make up for the enormous amount of error. Orbs have no place in astrology. The event happens to the second it was predicted. The orb of influence of a planet is pure fancy. <br/>Aspects between projections are replaced with angular aspects in the real sky. <br/>An unsurmountable deal of asinine literature proposes the most unbelievable aspects that include 11 or 111 degrees. In a horoscope where everything is misplaced by miles, the refined charlatans inspected stuff like an 18 degree aspect. With quarter of sky of error for planetary position, they played the minute scientist. This is typical of the psyche, which distracts from the quintessential while driving people mad with petty nonsense. You will find examples of people driving mad other people with nonsense in your suburb, neighborhood and TV. <br/>There is no such thing as Mars opposing Pluto. True, sometimes aspects come close to 180 degrees, but occasions are rare. If we come to 177 degrees of angular aspect, take five while remembering that 3 degrees is 3 years of error in direction. <br/>The natal horoscope does not determine the events. The directions determine the event. Thus for Carl Gustav Jung, the secondary angular direction of Moon in Cetus determined his childhood. <br/>Alice has been born on Aug 4th 2004 with Moon rising in Cetus, Mercury in Sextans and Venus in Orion at the Stargate. She has Juno in Scutum and Pluto in Serpens Cauda, the ascendant of the U.S.A. This diligent little girl is vital for the future of her nation, but her parents did not know it before the astral scan has been made for the child. <br/> <br/> <br/>Klaudio Zic <br/> <br/> <br/>Copyright © 2008 by Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved worldwide. <br/>Redistribution of this file in any form is violation of the Copyright Law. <br/>This copyrighted material has been previously published as available from http://www.lulu.com/astrology <br/>Copyright © 2008 By Klaudio Zic. All Rights Reserved. No part of this material may be reproduced or <br/>Transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or otherwise, for commercial purposes or otherwise, <br/>without the written permission of the author, except when permitted by law. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 0 replies </div>

Avoué d'Arras et Bellonne 2008-10-21T13:50:10Z http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/c1772f0b-9b48-4809-83d5-3dd9f553673a 2009-10-03T09:43:34Z 2008-02-26T00:52:09Z

<div>Since they first came out there has been a huge debate over whose the better artist. I want to talk about whose more good looking, the better person, and more talented. Christina's ascendant is Aquarius but in the Libra decan. Britney's ascendat in Libra in the Libra decan. <br/> <br/>Personally I like Christina better. </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 2 replies </div>

2008-02-26T00:52:09Z Tom http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/0cad234b-86d5-4b9f-a966-14df2e2b4b94 2009-07-25T09:22:52Z 2009-07-13T16:15:01Z

<div>"Libra rising natives are usually attracted to competent, active partners. Their relationships are often characterized by bickering or competitiveness until they learn to drop their sweet image once in a while and to stop blaming their partners for everything that goes wrong. More on Libra Rising." - is this True?? arguments with your Partners and opposite Sex??</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 2 replies </div>

Tom 2009-07-13T16:15:01Z mamagaea http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/855cce4a-ed61-4cee-96c7-686c99c9a4ef 2009-07-07T06:24:00Z 2009-07-01T18:10:19Z

<div>Anyone my age (around 38) should have Uranus retrograde in their first house (I think). Uranus is about to go retrograde for the next few months. How does that usually manifest in your life?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 3 replies </div>

mamagaea 2009-07-01T18:10:19Z Marvin http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/c8fbee1c-e85d-486b-8513-1b9d6bed2903 2009-07-01T02:19:58Z 2009-06-15T18:12:17Z

<div>What can i expect from this ascendant when in love?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 2 replies </div>

Marvin 2009-06-15T18:12:17Z http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/d1ca6c68-2812-43e2-b238-e4b1aa8e6e0a 2009-03-23T05:52:16Z 2004-03-25T03:35:29Z

<div>(Howard Sasportas) <br/> <br/>Whereas Aries rising calls for wilful, decisive and self-assertive action, Libra on the Ascendant requires deliberation and carefully chosen action based on an objective and fair assessment of any situation. In other words what others need or want will have to be taken into consideration. Reflective judgement is a keynote for this Ascendant: various alternatives are weighted in the balance, and the most appropriate mode of being or acting is selected. However, the capacity to see another person's point of view as well as the ability to look at any situation from all its sides can be crippling to action. Hence the vacillation, the indecisiveness, and the sitting-on-the-fence reputation of Libra rising. <br/> <br/>Choices are more easily made if we have a system of values on which to base them. The responsibility to establish a set of values, standards and ideals upon which action can be gauged rests heavily on the shoulders of this Ascendant. It would be so easy just to let another person decide for him / her. And even if Libra rising bases its actions on what is believed to be true and just, is there any guarantee that it will all work out beautifully in the end? A friend of mine is an avid sun-worshipper. On those rare days when the sun shines clearly and brightly in England, rather than spending the day at home in her back garden, she acts on her better judgement and dutifully drives to the office. As a reward we might reasonably expect that 'the gods' should smile down on her for such an honourable decision. But why does it always rain on her day off? Libra rising must learn to make choices and then to take the consequences for them. <br/> <br/>Libra rising also means striking a balance between the 'masculine' and 'feminine' sides of life, between mystical urges and practical notions, between 'head' and 'heart', intuition and logic, and most of all between what we want and need and what others want and need. Libra on the Ascendant searches for the perfect relationship, the ideal philosophy, and for that which is harmonious and pleasing. There is often an interest in the arts and an attraction to such abstract systems as politics or mathematics, which offer symmetry and completeness of concept. Many of Libra rising's beliefs and ideals may be too high-minded in relation to the harsher realities of life. At the same time, this Ascendant can be very critical when something does not meet what is desired or expected. And those with this placement can be very tough: 'In the name of harmony you had better see it my way or else'. (Could this be Aries creeping in?) <br/> <br/>Relationships are very important to Libra rising, and needed for personal evolution and growth. If Libra is on the Ascendant, then Aries is on the Descendant. In one sense, meeting Aries in the sphere of life associated with the partner elicits Libran qualities. If a partner is strongly self-centred and assertive (an Aries type), then the Libran Ascendant will have to learn to adjust and make concessions. However, if the other person becomes too unfair, pushy and demanding, then Libra rising learns to stand up for the self and demand the Libran traits of equality and balance. Opposites have a way of turning you into one another. If the Libran Ascendant doesn't like the way you are running the show, you will soon know. Libra will fight for its philosophy or political ideals with ferocity, quashing whatever doesn't fit into its vision of harmony and perfection. <br/> <br/>Most textbooks attribute Libra rising with physical charm and a well-proportioned body, but with the stipulation that there is a tendency to put on weight due to laziness or over-indulgence. Air signs on the Ascendant generally have a refined rather than coarse look about them. <br/> <br/>(Jeanne Avery) <br/> <br/>The symbol of Libra is the scale of justice. This is the rising sign that seeks balance. Perhaps the primary quality associated with Libra ascendant is his sense of fair play. The primary need of one with this rising sign is harmony. He cannot stand injustice, dissension, or strife. He may spend his life attempting to create the peaceful and beautiful existence he so desperately needs. He is constantly readjusting to align himself to the forces around him to achieve an inner sense of balance. <br/> <br/>The ruler of Libra is Venus. Venus is the planet ruling the arts, and describes anything connected to beauty. Graciousness, diplomacy, and sociability are obvious personality traits. Venus is also the ruler of Taurus, yet the difference between the two expressions of Venusian qualities is quite distinct. Libra is an Air sign, while Taurus is an Earth sign. Venusian traits expressed by Taurus rising are more earthy, while the Libran expression is more intellectual. Libra is a cardinal sign, indicating sensitivity and receptivity. Sometimes this sensitive nature can be troublesome to the individual, if he finds himself in a situation of disharmony and strife from which he cannot escape. <br/> <br/>The beauty associated with this ascendant is apparent immediately. Refined features, delicate countenance, and perhaps a dimple or two are dead giveaways. The texture of the skin is velvety smooth; and the disposition is usually as pleasant as the appearance is lovely. Men with this ascendant are particularly handsome and charming. The manner of dress is always neat and clean. You will rarely find a Libra rising whose appearance is sloppy, even when he is totally relaxed and off-guard. Good taste seems to be an inborn trait. Subtle scent, a love of jewellery, and tasteful combinations of color can also be characteristic of this ascendant. The graciousness and sense of diplomacy are as much a part of his beauty as his appearance. A sense of harmony that never quite disappears surrounds this person. He rarely loses his charm. Social graces come naturally to him. No matter what the circumstances of his birth, he possesses a quality of refinement, an appearance of culture, and a gentleness of manner. <br/> <br/>Libra is the seventh sign of the zodiac. Libra rules the natural house of partnership. This individual has a distinct need for companionship, and is rarely a loner. The desire for association brings him into contact with many people, but it is particularly important for him to find the right intimate relationship so that he can have the love and harmony he so desperately needs. Once he has satisfied his personal balance in a love relationship, he can begin to look further to his sense of social justice. He may have to take care of his partnership needs before he can go beyond to the broader scope. Without love in his life, he is one end of a seesaw, up in the air and rootless. He cannot adjust unless he has someone to adjust to. Sometimes this person will compromise his own desires just to have companionship rather than remain alone. <br/> <br/>Anndee Larsen, with Libra rising, expressed these Libran characteristics in this way. She said: 'I will overlook a lot to keep peace in a relationship. I will sometimes sacrifice what is good for me, in order to have someone to share things with, even if it is only a few good dinners a week. I will do anything to avoid breaking off a relationship until I have someone else around. I seem to meld from one relationship to another. In a work situation, I cannot deal with tension or jealousies. I just cannot perform under that kind of tension. I can put myself under that tension, but I can't take it from someone else. If there's a problem I cannot solve, I'll leave'. <br/> <br/>Venus is the planet that rules anything artistic. Color, design, architecture, fabrics, clothing, and decorating are considered Venusian. Perfumes, make-up, beauty products, jewellery, gourmet foods, flowers, needlework, and crafts are ruled by Venus. Theatre, music, dance, and art are also described by this planet. Many people with this ascendant find a natural attraction to occupations connected with these matters. Someone with Libra irsing may prefer bubble baths and perfumes to food. Other preferences include art or beautiful literature. The world of diplomacy and government is another form of Venusian expression. Legal matters and the courts of the land are Venusian in their concept because that broader sense of social justice is the highest expression of the need for peace and harmony for everyone. <br/> <br/>The list of people with this ascendant who have shown an affinity for politics is outstanding. It has long been observed that the line betwen politicians and actors is quite thin. Sometimes the lines are crossed with tremendous ease. Early expression of talent and artistry can lead to stronger commitment and eventual participation in legal, political, or diplomatic fields. Many times, one with this ascendant begins to express an artistic talent after he has accomplished great things in his life through politics and world affairs. Whether one with this ascendant confines his activities to serving tea from an heirloom silveer service with the accompanying cucumber sandwiches, or deals in matters that can affect social issues for mankind on the whole, there is a need to show that strong sense of sociability in one way or another. <br/> <br/>The aspects to Venus in an individual chart can not only indicate how this individual is likely to channel and express his good taste and sociability, but also indicate just how far the person will go to achieve the harmony he desires. Compromise can be part of his characteristic ability to achieve his goals; yet in a negative sense, duplicity and deceit can underlie his charming manner. He can be particularly devious in such a subtle way that he is rarely found out. He can hide behind such a gracious facade that one would never suspect the dangerous personality behind the mask. In spite of his apparently nonchalant manner and charm, this individual is rarely an intellectual lightweight. He may not be able to clearly say just what he is thinking, or he may not want to put all his cards on the table and show his hand; but he is rarely as simple and uncomplicated as he appears on the surface. When Venus is badly aspected in an individual chart, he may go to all lengths to avoid making waves; peace is too important to him. The aspects to Venus will describe how various 'colors' modify the pure Venusian personality, and how the individual will express his quality of graciousness and live his life. <br/> <br/>When Venus is well aspected in an individual chart, the inclination is to express this diplomatic, gracious manner in a positive way. He will then find an outlet for his abilities, rather than opting for self-indulgence and avoidance of anything difficult. <br/> <br/>It is obvious that many avenues of expression are open to one with Libra rising. Some famous names have expressed the peace-loving personality of this ascendant sign in religious ways. The list of actors with this ascendant is long. The women who chose acting as a mode of expression include some of the great beauties of the world. <br/> <br/>It is when Venus is badly aspected in an individual chart that the person with this ascendant avoids self-expression. He wants to be pampered and prefers to lead an easy life, perhaps one of total self-indulgence. There may be good reason for this lack of active expression. Early childhood conditions have tremendous effect on the positive use of Venusian traits. It appears that one with this rising sign feels safe when he is quiet, good, and perfect. His very survival depends on his not disrupting the status quo. Those with Libra rising may beocome aware that it is up to them to express their talent in whatever way they desire. When Venus is not well aspected in the chart, positive expression of talent is not as easy for the individual as it would appear. <br/> <br/>Since the ascendant is indicative of early survival decisions, an undersatnding of the Libra rising's first moment in life will clarify his desperate need to avoid strife and to create harmony. In regression sessions, the pronounced similarity of the experiences of a number of individuals leads clearly toward a sense of responsibility to keep the peace in the family. The indiviudal with Libra rising somehow decides taht if he is good enough, any upsetting conditions will disappear from the family scene. He becomes overly sensitive to the family environment and decides, unfairly, that it is his fault that things are the way they are. He thinks his goodness will affect the conditions around him. He adopts a pacifistic attitude quite early in life. Later on, in the social milieu or in a tense situation, he falls back on his charm rather than expressing a more positive diplomatic talent. <br/> <br/>In childhood, he can overload himself in assuming responsibility, and can feel extremely pressured, although maintaining an appearance of outward calm. He decides the only way he will survive is to give up, to be especially quiet so he won't stir up anything more that could be upsetting. He may unwittingly develop a lifetime habit of taking the easy way out for the sake of harmony. The problem is intensified as he is always rewarded by those around him for being good. He learns to get the attention he needs by his show of charm and niceness. He may never feel safe or secure in showing feelings of anger, jealousy, or competition. <br/> <br/>One young lady with this ascendant was born a twin. Her sibling was frequently sick, while she was extremely healthy. During a regression session, she discovered that she felt it was all her fault somehow. She felt guilty and a little one for being healthy while her twin suffered, and felt she had robbed that twin of vitality before birth. Her twin's sickness upset and worried the whole family, and would happen quite unexpectedly. She described her feelings at that time by saying, 'I felt that somehow I was not nice enough. I decided that if I was a better person, somehow my twin would be all right. I decided to 'fast' on fun. It was my penance. If I didn't have any fun and I didn't let myself do anything that was not nice, my twin would be okay. I just didn't feel right about enjoying myself. I bottled up my love nature. I wish I could just love freely, but I've never felt clear about it. I could never ask for anything for myself; and sometimes I felt I was acting in a counterfeit way. Sometimes I just didn't care [about my twin's welfare]. Naturally I felt guilty about that. It's been hard for me to do exactly what I want to do. I'm always behaving as I think I'm supposed to. It can paralyze me sometimes.' <br/> <br/>Many times, the Libra personality has difficulty in realizing his true identity. He may never have to learn how to stick up for himself. He may have had his needs met easily because of his nice disposition and his peacefulness. At times, he may have felt lost in the shuffle. It can be difficult to learn how to fight back. He may give up on things that don't come without a struggle. His ability to adapt can become a bad habit, hiding his real desires. He may not know how to say what he really means, hiding his real desires. He may not know how to say what he really means, trying instead to say what will please someone else. He can be sadly disillusioned when in the 'real' world; his charming, easy manner just means he can be ignored. He may have to learn a whole new set of rules. <br/> <br/>Sometimes the early decisions come through photographs of conflict between parents. The child can feel overly protective toward one parent and can feel rejection from the other. He may be overly obedient in hopes of getting the attention and love he craves from that rejecting parent. This was clearly illustrated in the chart of a beautiful young singer whose passive nature was obvious even though she had a thriving career. Her mother had taken care of everything in her career, acting as her manager until the lovely, talented singer was married. She seemed unable to fend for herself, so her husband took over for the mother, handling any difficulties that arose. Periodically, her husband noticed quite a strong character emerge when something was wrong musically. He was mystified, but still worried that if anything happened to him, she would be unable to care for herself. The singer ultimately realized that her passive behavior was her way of including her divorced mother in her life, as she felt protective toward her. It seemed easier to let her mother and her husband do things for her, as it seemed to make them happy; it was easier in the long run. With awareness, she began to take a stronger position in the management of her own career and was pleased to notice the positive changes that resulted. <br/> <br/>Libra rising may not like to be around too many people. He can feel more comfortable in small groups, and prefers intimate social situations to masses of people at any one time. He can easily blend with and adjust to two or three people; but when there are too many personalities, he feels pulled and scattered. His scale-of-justice personality becomes like a whirling dervish and his sense of tranquility is thrown completely off balance. In a positive sense, this individual can create such an aura of peace and tranquility that it is worth his while to learn how to express these traits with some self-assurance. An awareness of his artistic ability can start him on the road to self-expression. <br/> <br/>Creative outlet through any art form will enable the person with Libra rising to tap and release a stronger manifestation of his love nature. It can lead to a more dynamic, less static experience of life. <br/> <br/>In areas of partnership, the person with this easygoing ascendant is attracted to someone energetic, aggressive, sexy, innovative, and pioneering. The combination works well when each partner is in tune with his own personality. They can complement each other and have a harmonious relationship as long as an acknowledgement of individual needs is recognized. If Mars is well aspected in the natal chart, the individual finds a mate who reflects his own aggressive, sexual urges and who is in touch with an ambitious, competitive nature. If Mars is not well aspected, frustrations on the part of one with Libra rising find reflection in a mate or partner who is impatient, angry, or unable to release his aggressive urges. Strife in partnership areas can be the result. <br/> <br/>Aries rules the partnership house when Libra is ascending. Aries is the first sign of the zodiac, indicating a natural pioneer, or one who wants to be first. The symbol or Aries is the ram, butting through any obstacles in his way. In a positive sense, Libra rising is fortunate in finding a mate who is not deterreed by obstacles. If one with Libra ascendant is aware that he may unconsciously attract one who stirs things up in order to be able to create harmony out of that strife, the relationship is one of balance. Ambitious goals on the part of the mate will channel much of that dynamic energy, and life will be exciting for the peace-making Libran personality. The charm and gracious quality of Libra rising brings harmony into the life of the innovative partner. <br/> <br/>The problems occur when the Libran personality looks for someone to do his fighting for him and is not able to express his own aggressive energies. He could then find an explosive situation with a mate who is actually inhibited, secretly angry, and ready to release his frustrations on that peace-loving Libra rising. Hidden rage could be the most damaging part of a partnership situation. To be truly happy, he must be with someone who constantly releases the fighting spirit in creative ways, or in fighting for right. <br/> <br/>(Lyn Birbeck) <br/> <br/>You are a diplomat or yes-person. Venus is your ruling planet. Your shadow is aggression. Other is a go-getter or bulldozer. Mars is Other's ruling planet. <br/> <br/>You want to make yourself out to be an agreeable and sociable person. Having a partner in life is more important for you than any other rising sign, for it is a testament to this aspiration. Furthermore, you are willing to bend over backwards, make all sorts of compromises, and endlessly groom yourself in order to achieve this end of being the Other to an Other. This is all very well and very pleasant too, but the irony is that you attract someone who forces you ultimately to stand up for yourself and to be your own person, and not just someone who harmonizes with someone else. Other to you can be quite disagreeable or lacking in the social graces, and could learn from your innate good manners and powers of diplomacy. But Other may be particularly acid should your style be merely a fashionable but superficial display of socially correct verbiage and mannerisms. However, there is also the possibility that Other will paly along with you (such is our culture's programming to please and gain approval) and that eventually and shockingly the raw and crude reality of each or you will burst out, presenting your very real sense of harmony with a very real challenge. <br/> <br/>If you often find youself being unjustifiably attacked or mistreated by Other, you can be sure that you are being caught in your own Shadow. The image of charm and pleasantness that you project can fool you into thinking that there isn't an offensive bone in your body - or at least, apart from teh ones that you choose to be aware of. But the fact is, being so nice is asking to be pushed around - which is a way of getting Other to act out the aggression that you have but only otherwise experience as anger, frustration or illness. Getting off the fence, stating your case, and being prepared to engage in conflict would resolve matters. <br/> <br/>It is desirable that both you and other regard yourselves and each other as individuals in your own right. So a healthy sense of competitiveness is to be encouraged for it helps to keep each of you mindful of your individual worth and effectiveness. Being physically active, together and individually, is also recommended. Without creating or maintaining this theme, outright and destructive conflict could surface. <br/> <br/>When you are alone, it is because the time has come for you to develop and come to terms with yourself as an individual being - that is, someone who has only him- / herself to contend with life. Although, or rather because, you need a partner more than most, it is inevitable that you will encounter such aloneness quite acutely at some point in your self-development. Naturally, such a state will not come upon you, or be embarked upon, easily - but it should be seen as a positive turning point, with a better relationship following upon it in due course. <br/> <br/>(John Townley) <br/> <br/>With your Ascendant in Libra, you have almost an addiction to physical beauty and grace in sexuality. You are happiest when surrounded by all the props that make lovemaking more sensual and beautiful - fine clothes, incense and perfume, elegant sheets, anything to set the stage for a ballet of love. <br/> <br/>If there is a disadvantage to this position, it is that you idealize love so much that it is difficult for any partner to live up to your expectations, both physically and emotionally. Occasionally you must come down to earth, for otherwise you may set your sights too high for any realistic relationship. <br/> <br/>In most relationships, you are the one who develops ideas rather than the one who thinks of them. Your talent lies in turning a love affair into an artistic mode of self-expression for both of you. However, you must give your lover plenty of room for personal development and avoid the temptation to be manipulative in order to get your way. Although you may modify and refine the relationship, you cannot choreograph it all yourself; that requires an equal effort and confrontation by both partners. <br/> <br/>If the relationship is well balanced, you can shape and articulate it to the point that others will see you both as 'beautiful people'. <br/> <br/>(Robert Hand) <br/> <br/>With this rising sign, you are likely to be attractive to others and probably popular. Because you are very concerned about getting along with people, you take the trouble to learn how. This is not to say that you never get what you want, but instead of using force of character to persuade people to do something your way, you use charm. Even when your actions annoy people, something in your manner prevents them from getting really angry at you. <br/> <br/>You dislike unpleasantness in any form, whether it is physical ugliness or angry feelings between people, so you do your best to keep everything peaceful. And when you are confronted with ugliness, you try to make it better or cover it up with something beautiful. <br/> <br/>In this same spirit, you like to dress elegantly, perhaps even flashily, although some element in your taste prevents you from dressing too gaudily. You also like to be surrounded by beautiful things, and you may develop an early taste for art, music and literature. <br/> <br/>In your desire to be agreeable, you must be sure not to compromise something that is important to you. Sometimes it is necessary to fight, and you should learn when and how to do so. Many people with Libra rising become quite competitive, once they have gotten over the stage of being agreeable at all costs. <br/> <br/>(Sasha Fenton) <br/> <br/>Libra is a cardinal sign, which means that there is a limit to what you will put up with. It is also masculine, positive and airy in character, which suggests that you appear outgoing and enterprising and that you prefer to deal with the world from a mental or intellectual standpoint. This is a sign of long Ascension, so there are plenty of you around. <br/> <br/>This sign on the ascendant denotes a good start in life. However, there may be a few drawbacks even when this most pleasant sign is rising. Your parental home was probably comfortable, your parents kind and your relationship with childhood friends reasonable. As a small child, you were good-looking, popular and charming, and you managed to keep out of any real trouble both at home and at school. All in all, your childhood experiences were better than most. <br/> <br/>The problem is subtle, and it varies a little from one Libra rising subject to the next. Your parents may have left you to your own deviced because they were busy. In some cases, the father was a distant figure, he may have travelled away from home in connection with work or he may have walked away from the marriage and left the family; in many cases he actually died when the subject was very young. Sometimes the relationship with the father is quite good but the subject seems to be at odds with the mother. Whatever the actual situation may be, the feeling is one of distance and neglect. It may be that the subject and his parents don't share the same values or that they have natures which clash, although any clashing will be done quietly when this sign is rising. There are many Libra rising subjects who are lavished with guilt-induced 'goodies' by parents who neglect them. <br/> <br/>In less difficult circumstances, you will have grown up being well cared for and well understood. Your sisters and brothers may have been less than impressed by your charm, and could have behaved in a jealous and spiteful manner towards you. You were probably a langorous child; lazy, slow-moving, quiet and well-beahved. If your parents were not too neglectful, they would have given you every opportunity to stretch your mind and encouraged you to do well at school. It is unlikely that a great deal of pressure was put on you to succeed, but there was pressure to conform and not to make waves. <br/> <br/>Being independent, even as a child, it is possible that you developed religious beliefs and political opinions different from those of your parents. Libra rising subjects don't usually come from a highly religious background but, oddly enough, their parents seem to have very strong political views. Belonging as you do to an indepenent-minded Air sign, you would have listened to their opinions and then formed your own at a later stage in life. Although slow to do anything, and very slow to come to any kind of decision, you were quite able to think things out for yourself and to work out what you wanted to believe in. <br/> <br/>You had, even as a child, a great desire to be surrounded by beauty. Your sense of taste and style is innate - it would have been hard for you to live with mess, dirt and disorder. The chances are that your parents' home was tasteful and attractive, and your own possessions clean and well cared for. You are not slovenly yourself and nor were your parents. You appreciate the arts, music and anything which is attractive and well thought-out. You could have been artistically creative, especially if there are other forces on your birth chart to back this up. Librans have a natural kind of refinement. It is possible, even as a small child, that you assisted your parents in planning and working on a garden or in choosing the colour schemes for the house. This natural Libran taste can be useful to others. <br/> <br/>Where appearance is concerned, please take into consideration racial factors and the rest of the birthchart. You are good-looking, although not necessarily beautiful. Your features are refined, delicate and attractive. Even if you are plump, you will have clear skin, beautiful eyes and a lovely smile. In white races, the skin is very fair and the eyes are large, widely set and often a pale luminous grey. You are probably a little below average height with a body which is long in proportion to your legs. Your posture is good and you move with a kind of liquid grace. Your choice of clothing may be conventional or outrageous, but it will always be classy, expensive and in keeping with your personality. You like to keep your clothes for a long time and are prepared to spend money on dry-cleaning, therefore you tend to buy high-quality goods which will last. <br/> <br/>You are charm personified. People take to you at once, because of your friendly approach and your genuine interest in what they have to say. Pleasant, humorous and gentle, you are easy to talk to and to get along with, at least on the surface. You enjoy a good old gossip but are rarely sarcastic or hurtful. Your manner of dealing with the world is reasonable, respectful, calme and businesslike. It is rarely brisk or officious. At work you appear to be capable, with an unhurried stye which belies your ambition. Friends drift in and out of your life, and though you may forget them for a while, you are always pleased to see them again when they reappear. Unfortunately you lack sincerity, and intuitive people spot this immediately. <br/> <br/>Lovely, laid-back Libra - yet another contradictory sign. The evidence from my questionnaires suggests that you didn't enjoy your childhood very much. It is possible that you were afraid of your father, while you may have harboured contempt for your mother. Children from all signs of the zodiac are chivvied by their parents and teachers into making efforts, and many a child is castigated for his or her sloth. Librans seem to be blamed for this more than most. You have a great knack for switching off when asked to do something you don't fancy. You can work very hard, but this will be in fits and starts. You can make a concerted effort when pursuing some money-making scheme or when pursuing a debt, but you cannot keep up the pressure for long because at heart you are lazy. <br/> <br/>Librans can be highly ambitious. Remember, this is a cardinal sign. You hate to miss a good opportunity; however, your ambitions may not be immediately obvious to others. Many Libras put the minimum effort into their career while working hard at some outside interest. One example is a friend of mine who has served in the Territorial Army for many years without a break while moving around from one job to another. Many of you are musical, continuing to put time and effort into a musical hobby, even when other interests wane. <br/> <br/>Your pleasant outer manner may hide contempt for others. It may also hide fear, inhibition and a well-concealed indifference to the needs of others. Some Libra rising subjects, however, are idealistic, truly hoping to make life fuller and better for other people by working in politics or for some worthy cause. You have one really tremendous virtue, and that is your common sense approach to problems. This, coupled with your marvellous ability to listen and give good sensible advice, easily outweighs all your vices. Your talent for listening and advising is terrific, but you haven't got the strength, or the patience, to become permanently or heavily involved in the problems of others. You yourself need a listening ear from time to time as your confidence is fragile and you cannot always cope with life. <br/> <br/>Libra rising subjects of both sexes are highly domesticated. You may be an excellent cook, a terrific do-it-yourselfer or an inspired antique collector. You may, indeed, be all three. You love your home and enjoy family life. The chances are that you will marry and have children while you are quite young. If you are fortunate in your choice of partner, your marriage will be a great success; however, if it doesn't work out, you will move on and look for someone else. You may be quite hard on your own children, demanding better behaviour and a higher standard of education than you, yourself, achieved. There may be a measure of over-compensation here against your own laissez-faire childhood. You are generous to your partner and also to your children. While it may be true that your children are chivvied to 'perform' well, they are unlikely to be kept short of anything which they need. You, yourself, need a good home, filled with the nicest things for yourself and your family. <br/> <br/>As a rising sign even more than a Sun sign, Libra is concerned with external appearacnces and the projection of an image. The image may vary from 'yuppy success story' to 'hip musician', but it is always 'cool' in every sense of the word. Confrontations are seen as being uncool, and therefore avoided wherever possible. You tend to say what other people want to hear, in order to be tactful. Female subjects can project a very feminine or a very sexy image which conceals a cool business head. <br/> <br/>You have a gift for spiritual healing. Maybe this is allied to your ability to listen and advise sympathetically. Maybe it has nothing at all to do with it; but I have come across many good healers who have Libra strongly placed in your birthchart. There is another side to the same coin which governs your superb arbitration talents, and that is your ability to argue a point to the bitter end. You may lose sight of reality while you are arguing and end up making absolutely no sense at all, but you will win by sheer persistence. <br/> <br/>The point opposite the ascendant is the descendant or the cusp of the seventh house. Traditionally this is supposed to show the kind of person to whom you are attracted. When Libra is rising, the descendant is in Aries; therefore, the enthusiasm and enterprise of Aries types may well attract you. I have noticed that many Librans do actually marry Arians, but this union is apt to frustrate both parties because the Arian becomes bored with the Libran's slow, calculating outlook, while the Libran becomes tired of the Arian's childishness. Libra may also object to the Arian's dictatorial manner. <br/> <br/>Librans need a parter who enjoys work. You are happy to have them work alongside you, as long as they don't try to make your decisons for you. The cardinal quality of the signs on your ascendant and descendant suggests that you must lead, albiet slowly, rather than follow. You require a fairly calm partner who has a strongly confident centre to his or her personality because you have a habit of taking your everyday frustrations out on your nearest and dearest, or ignorint them when you're in a bad mood. <br/> <br/>A clingy, unreasonable or jealous partner is no good for you, as you detest being pinned down or having to account for your movements. Oddly enough, you succeed in one situation where many others fail, and that is in the area of second marriages. You do not trouble yourself to argue with step-children or ex-wives or -husbands, preferring to keep the peace if at all possible. Inside your own one-to-one relationship, you may be far from peaceful, but to those on the periphery you appear to be decent and reasonable. If you find yourself drawn into a wider family group, you manage very well because you enjoy the fun of family life and all the extra opportunities for conversation and advice-giving. One point which must be made is that you like to experiment with relationships; therefore, you may find commitment and faithfulness impossible. <br/> <br/>Despite your cool outer image, relating is never a cool business for you. Somewhere along the line you will fall in love; and when this happens you will fall hard. You may not show your feelings to the world, but they are strong and deep nonetheless. If you are let down and hurt by this experience you hide your feelings, but they go down deeper than anyone can guess and it is unlikely that you will ever allow yourself to be placed in that situation again. This is a shame because the next person who comes along may be far more worthy of your love, but by then it is too late. Once you have been burned you never place your hand in the fire again. <br/> <br/>When you do feel intensely about your partner, your lovemaking can reach magical proportions; and even when this is not the case you are a notably good lover. Libra is a hedonistic sign which enjoys any kind of sensual experience, good food, good music, and, of course, good sex. You take the trouble to make sure your partner enjoys the experience as much as you yourself; and your sensual laziness ensures that you take your time over the process. <br/> <br/>You don't like to make love in scruffy or uncomfortable surroundings. Much as you enjoy sex, you may not want to indulge yourself very often. You may prefer great sex once a month to 'so-so' sex three times a week. <br/> <br/>Traditionally, the Libran problem areas for health are the bladder and the soft organs of the stomach. Your liver and pancreas may be weak, so you should limit your alcohol intake and avoid too much sweet food. You could have a weight problem, but your natural vanity might urge you to take action when you realize that you are beginning to look tubby. Libra rules the motor development of the nervous system and, therefore, can be involved with rheumatic or nervous problems, particularly in the spinal column. <br/> <br/>(Julia and Derek Parker) <br/> <br/>Libra is not one of the strongest signs of the zodiac; any other powerful influence in the birth chart can sap its positive characteristics, especially when it is the rising sign. However, many typically Libran elements will be a part of the personality, especially the all-important need to relat which under these circumstances becomes the very basic psychological motivation. Very often the whole personality is geared to this end, with people rushing into permanent relationships. Sadly, such premature commitments can end in heartbreak and divorce. The notorious Libran tendency to fall in love with love is here; however, it is spiced with lively sexuality and a greater enthusiasm for the physical aspects of love than is often the case with a Libran Sun. The individual should be aware of his or her uncharacteristic leaning towards selfishness in close relationships. <br/> <br/>A tendency to ignore personal faults rather than recognize and come to terms with them is also likely: self-satisfaction is not foreign to these people. Natural charm may at first disguise this, but not for long. Self-analysis is the best way for those with Libra rising to see clearly their character weaknesses and correct them. It is almost essential to involve a partner or friend with whom they can talk things through, and who is able to be severely critical when necessary. <br/> <br/>Worry or tension don't usually afflict those with Libra rising, so are unlikely to be the cause if the subject often has headaches. If these persist, medical advice should be sought as they may be due to a slight kidney disorder. <br/> <br/>Many charts of older people will reveal people born with Neptune close to the ascendant. If in the first house of the birth chart, it can weaken the personality by increasing the Libran tendency to take the line of least resistance. The gentler, softer qualities of these people will then be strengthened by Neptune's sign placing; very pleasant, no doubt, but full of inherent problems. These individuals must learn to face up to reality and not resort to negative escapism. If Neptune is in Libra in the twelfth house, there can be an inclination to experiment with drugs. The need to escape is better released through art, or perhaps religious or spiritual interests. <br/> <br/>(Carolyn Reynolds) <br/> <br/>Libra Rising Males: Lively and intelligent, always with a well-chosen word or two, this man can convince you of almost naything. Libra rising is successful at work, popular with everyone, and has a reputation for changing his mind and his girlfreinds in the bat of an eyelash. If you don't pay attention, this may be confusing. Whatever he changes his mind about doesn't involve a basic value. He can con anyone, but when his emotions are involved he dwells on things like honor. Dreams and honor, such are the things that bind and tie him. Yes, he is flirtatious, and yes, he will go from one relationship to another because he cannot stand to be alone. A connoisseur of beauty, he has been known to marry bone structure. But when he finds his dream, he commits. Upon meeting the woman of his dreams, one Libra Rising man discovered that this woman had a child from another marriage. Out of respect for the child's loss of her father, he refused to visit when the child was around. Only after he made his commitment to the woman in marriage did he establish a relationship with the daughter. His reasoning: he did not want the child to experience the loss of another father figure and wanted to make sure of his position first. Another man had several mistresses and kept lifelong contact with them even after their marriages. Why? His sense of honor required him to keep tabs on their well-being since he felt guilty that he never offered them marriage. His motives twist and wind through the T-maze but he always curves back to respect and dignity. Share the dream of perfect mates, gracious living, and getting along harmoniously with everyone, and he will provide you a comfortable home with old-world charm where love is gentle and sweet. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising Females: Dimpled and delightful, she comes across pliant and compromising. She may be unsure, even indecisive. She'll call on you, her 'friend', to help her through the week's crisis. She's unable to manage by herslf. Get a grip on yourself, fella. Isn't she running her own business? Isn't she the doctoral candidate? This is part of her seduction. It's wonderful to play the game, but never mistake her helplessness for anything less than her carefully calculated plan to entrap you. this woman is very strong. Not that she isn't desirable, or even a terrific catch. But she's going to have you jumping through hoops if that's what she wants. She's an expert at persuasion and will have no qualms at getting you to marry her, move to another city, change your religion or change your vocation. There is no other woman in the Rising Signs who can compare to her when it comes to taming her man. If you dream of a benevolent dictator, look no further. In turn you'll get a home that's cozy, a wife who's unusually attractive and intelligent, and a top-notch hostess. She'll never admit to her manipulations, and no-one will ever guess that you're not guiding her through life. You can even play boss in front of your friends. She won't talk bad about you to her firnds unless she's in crisis. Of course, by that time she may be ready to leave. She idealizes her mate, is in love with love, and offers you dinned by candlelight. She'll camp with you, ride on your motorcycle, help you study for your exams, make herself indispensable. When she offers her affection it is without reserve. She does this because life without a mate for the Libra rising is unbearable. She quite simply exists for love. <br/> <br/> <br/>I have heard that Libra Risings need to learn more about themselves. I hope that helps. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 4 replies </div>

2004-03-25T03:35:29Z mamagaea http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/f7617529-30d3-4e9a-af0f-3f7a3fc1ccc2 2008-09-28T09:13:44Z 2006-04-25T06:30:06Z

<div>Thomas gave me a good idea. <br/> <br/>What is everyone's Chinese sign? And how do you think that shows itself in your Libraness? <br/> <br/>I am a Metal Boar (Pig). <br/> <br/>I am such a pig. Messy, that's me. But I don't let it bother me, ergo harmony! :)</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 14 replies </div>

mamagaea 2006-04-25T06:30:06Z mamagaea http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/0e765f12-5a4a-443c-9e5f-27e73c8893c8 2008-09-02T18:52:07Z 2005-12-08T08:15:24Z

<div>More on Libra Ascendant, Libra Rising Sign <br/> <br/> <br/>On this page: <br/>Libra Ascendant (Rising Sign) description <br/>Libra Ascendant (Rising Sign) with ruling planet, Venus, in the signs. <br/>Alternate descriptions of Libra Rising <br/>Famous People with Libra Rising <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>Everybody seems to like Libra Ascendant natives. They just come across as nice, pleasant, and fair. Look a little closer at their lives, and these nice people may have had quite a few problems in their relationships. Some of them have had a string of relationships, and it can be hard to imagine why! These natives attract others to them effortlessly. Besides, they simply don't know what to do with themselves without a significant other. <br/> <br/>Libra rising generally appear to be smoothing everything over. They have charming smiles, a gentle approach with others, and an easygoing image. Even if they were not endowed with good looks, they are attractive. Most pay a lot of attention to their personal appearance -- the colors they wear, their hair, the way they walk. <br/> <br/>Libra rising people can be enormously persuasive, although they will almost always use a "soft sell" approach when they want to win others over, which is all of the time! A tendency to pass the buck and keep up that "nice guy/gal" image are their worst qualities. However, they can make excellent mediators and will generally be the first to accommodate you. <br/> <br/>Libra rising natives are usually attracted to competent, active partners. Their relationships are often characterized by bickering or competitiveness until they learn to drop their sweet image once in a while and to stop blaming their partners for everything that goes wrong. <br/> <br/>The Ascendant (or rising sign) is often considered the mask one wears when meeting others. Perhaps it is most aptly thought of as the automatic responses to one's environment. The Ascendant shows our natural defenses and how we cope with day-to-day issues. The energies of the sign and condition of the Ascendant are most overt and obvious to others. The Ascendant shows an individual's first, natural reaction to new people and situations. <br/> <br/>The characteristics of Libra Ascendant described above are modified by planets conjunct the Ascendant, planets that aspect the Ascendant, and the position of the ruling planet of the sign on the Ascendant. For example, a person with a Libra Ascendant with its ruling planet, Venus, in Sagittarius will respond to the environment a little differently than another person, also with a Libra Ascendant, but whose Venus is in Scorpio. Similarly, a person with a Libra Ascendant who also has Saturn conjunct it will "behave" differently than someone with a Libra Ascendant who does not have that aspect in their natal charts. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising with Venus (Ruler of Libra) in the Signs <br/> <br/>The following interpretations incorporate the position, by sign, of Venus, the ruling planet of Libra. The sign position of Venus modifies your Libra Ascendant characteristics. These interpretations are from the Karmic Insight Report, and are written from an esoteric viewpoint. <br/> <br/>The point that was on the eastern horizon at the moment of your birth is called the ASCENDANT, or rising sign. While the Sun describes your conscious direction and current life focus, and the Moon your subconscious predisposition and past, the Ascendant indicates a way of being that transcends and embraces past, present, and future. It describes the way you engage and merge with the outer world and how you bring through into life the energies depicted by the Sun, the Moon, and the rest of your birth chart. Everything is filtered through the Ascendant from an esoteric point of view. It indicates your soul's function and thus a key part of your destiny. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising - General <br/> <br/>Your soul function involves establishing balance, and harmony in your world, and an awareness of beauty, of relationship, of style, and how things fit or blend together. Reconciling opposites and finding "the middle way" is your path, and the fine arts of compromise, negotiations and cooperation are key elements. You are the dove, the diplomat, the peacemaker, the friend; partnership and personal relations are your forte. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Aries <br/> <br/>However, your ruling planet, Venus, is in the fiery and self-assertive sign of Aries, suggesting that direct confrontation and even conflict (when necessary) is how you seek to create harmony and relationship. While appearing to oblige or give in, you nevertheless aim to fulfill your own intentions. You are learning about the true nature of love, of giving and receiving, and about personal integrity and honesty in the context of intimate relationships. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Taurus <br/> <br/>Your ruling planet, Venus, is in the pleasure-loving sign of Taurus, which suggests that you magnetically attract whatever you want and need into your life, and that you influence the world through your considerable physical beauty, personal magnetism, or charm. You are truly a lover of beauty, harmony, comfort, and peace, and you can not flourish in an atmosphere of intense pressure or interpersonal conflict. Laziness, a disinclination to exert yourself, an avoiding conflict even when it is necessary and fruitful are potential pitfalls for you. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Gemini <br/> <br/>Your ruling planet, Venus, is in the friendly and very sociable sign of Gemini: social relations and facilitating communication and understanding between people is truly your forte. Your innate curiosity about and interest in others, and your ability to speak their language, are gifts that enable you to fulfill your soul purpose as a messenger, mediator, or teacher. Words, language, or music is your forum. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Cancer <br/> <br/>Your ruling planet, Venus, is in the nurturing, devoted, sympathetic sign of Cancer, suggesting that you have a gentleness and sensitivity towards others that is remarkable. You have a feeling for children or the childlike, vulnerable side of people, and this tender feeling and care is your particular gift to life. At times you may be too "other-oriented", neglecting yourself for others' sake or allowing more assertive, dominant or needy individuals to take too much from you. Finding "the middle way" regarding marriage partners and children is essential to your unfoldment. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Leo <br/> <br/>Your ruling planet, Venus, is in the warm, generous, whole-heartedly loving sign of Leo. You are a big romantic that loves to celebrate love, life, and beauty. You have a gift for performing, dramatic self-expression, creative arts, entertaining, putting on a show. Like Oscar Wilde, you too believe that "In all important things, style is number one. In all unimportant things, style is number one." You need a stage, an audience, in order to fulfill your soul function, for although you are tactful and concerned about others, you are also in some way a star. Leadership and/or personal achievement and recognition are a part of your path. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Virgo <br/> <br/>Your ruling planet, Venus, is in the modest, devoted sign of Virgo, suggesting that your humility and your genuine desire to help and serve others are among your most endearing qualities as well as important aspects of your soul function. You may serve as an assistant, the support person, right-hand man, or faithful helper to another as a significant aspect of your life. No matter how far you go, service to others will be your strength. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Libra <br/> <br/>Your ruling planet, Venus, is in Libra as well suggesting that you influence the world through your considerable personal charm, beauty, finesse, and refinement. You are agreeable, disarming ingratiating obliging - and may avoid direct confrontation, direct and passionate involvement, or "getting your hands dirty". For you, as for Oscar Wilde "In all important matters, style is number one". Your sense of beauty; proportion, elegance, composition, harmony, aesthetic vows, and taste are instinctual aspects of your soul-function. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Scorpio <br/> <br/>Your ruling planet, Venus, is in the willful and passionate sign of Scorpio, however, suggesting an emotional intensity, a depth of desire and of feeling which is belied by your surface equanimity: you appear mild and conciliatory but possess surprising drive and tenacity, especially regarding your loves. Intimate relationships are not only a tremendously impatient means of fulfillment and self-expression, they are also, for you, a crucible. You have a very exotic and creative force which can be used for love, healing, and creative purposes, or which can turn destructive and negative, bringing you (and others with you) down. Beware of allowing yourself to be ruled by those to whom you have a passionate attachment, and/or of wielding your own attractive powers to manipulate others through their desire for you. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Sagittarius <br/> <br/>Your ruling planet, Venus, is in the idealistic and optimistic sign of Sagittarius, indicating that generosity, playful spontaneity, and a love of adventure infuse your relationships and your approach to life. You will touch many. Part of your soul function is to spread good will, tolerance, and acceptance for many different kinds of people. Traveling or at least moving around quite a bit in order to make connections is a part of this. At your best you bring people together in an atmosphere of openness, friendship, and possibly learning. Beware of your tendency to be somewhat irresponsible towards others or of promising anything because it seems good at the moment (and you want to be agreeable) but which you can not or will not follow through on. Your restlessness and love of freedom may cause you to renege on commitments or to avoid depth and "the hard stuff" in your relationships. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Capricorn <br/> <br/>Your ruling planet, Venus, is in the objective and unemotional sign of Capricorn, suggesting that you seek new solutions and alternatives in order to create harmony and make the world a better place. A concern for social justice and social betterment are woven into your very fabric. You have an "us" (rather than "I") approach to life. Active involvement in your community, especially in conflict resolution and facilitating or coordinating groups of people to cooperate and help one another, is essential to fulfilling your soul function. The arts or entertainment may well be a key part of this, also. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Aquarius <br/> <br/>Your ruling planet, Venus, is in the idealistic, free-thinking, and unconventional sign of Aquarius, suggesting that you seek new solutions and alternatives in order to create harmony and make the world a better place. A concern for social justice and social betterment are woven into your very fabric. You have an "us" (rather than "I") approached to life. Active involvement in your community, especially in conflict resolution and facilitating or coordinating groups of people to cooperate and help one another, is essential to fulfilling your soul function. The arts or entertainment may well be a key part of this, also. <br/> <br/>Libra Rising and Venus in Pisces <br/> <br/>Your ruling planet, Venus, is in the sensitive, sympathetic, compassionate sign of Pisces: you are kind hearted, tolerant, giving and forgiving, with an impulse to save, rescue, heal your loved ones - anyone, actually, who is broken or in need. You are a "bleeding heart", and angel, a care giver in the deepest sense of the word, and this is undeniably an essential aspect of your soul function. When out of balance, however, you tend to be too yielding, too malleable, easily influenced, or have very weak or distorted personal boundaries: everything's okay, all behavior is acceptable. Take care not to fall into the "co-dependent" or "enabler" role. At best you are a champion of the weak and an instrument for grace to flow into the lives of those around you. <br/> <br/>A Spiritual Interpretation of Libra Rising <br/> <br/>The following interpretation of Libra Rising is from Your Spiritual Path Report. <br/> <br/>"In some ways your persona is the balance of an object at rest. Metaphysically you appreciate the space between activities, so your persona reflects that kind of calm. This contemplative expression indicates that you can achieve a balance between your physical life and your soul life. As you learn to work with duality in a conscious way, your persona becomes calmer and you are able to effect change in the world without stirring up the energy more than necessary. <br/> <br/>The tendency to balance and calm is part of what makes you a welcome guest. You can be counted on to enrich conversation both by listening actively and participating with clear questions, ideas, and an occasional opinion. You cultivate harmony among the people around you, and thus make a strong team member who can be counted on to keep the goal in mind in the midst of discussion. <br/> <br/>As your spiritual path unfolds, you find that your sexual and other material desires change. You are still a physical beings with needs and desires, but your motivations take on the quality of spiritual aspiration. Instead of engaging in sex for the sake of sex, you seek partners who share a spiritual affinity that allows you both to experience ecstasy through your relationship. Sometimes this even means engaging in activities that transcend the physical realm without using physical contact as the avenue of approach. <br/> <br/>Sometimes we see an older couple hanging out together. They don't seem to talk very much, but we can see that they are attuned to each other. They investigate whatever catches the eye, pointing out things to each other. They are calm, not rushing their activity but following its natural pace. The outer appearance reflects an inner spiritual attunement that is the hallmark of the Libra Ascendant. <br/> <br/>Libra Ascendants are vulnerable to any excess that throws the physical body out of harmony. This can result in a variety of ailments involving the kidneys, bladder and sexual organs. You can enjoy life best by exercising s degree of moderation. In this way you demonstrate respect for yourself and your partner on the physical and spiritual level." <br/> <br/>Libra Ascendant from the Cosmo Natal Report: <br/> <br/>"You are a natural diplomat, reasonable, tolerant, fair, always willing to listen to varying viewpoints, and ready to see the other side of an issue. Even if you strongly disagree with someone, you will try to find points of similarity and agreement rather than emphasizing the differences. You often avoid taking an extreme or one-sided stance on anything. You have a strong desire for harmonious and pleasant relationships, and express a spirit of cooperation, compromise, friendship, and fairness. You very much want to be liked and because of your need for approval and acceptance, you are easily influenced by others' opinions, especially when young. You so much want to please that often you will suppress your own intense or unpleasant feelings in order not to offend others. Sometimes your politeness is interpreted as phoniness or wishy-washiness. <br/> <br/>Your need to create harmony extends to your physical environment and personal appearance as well. You appreciate beauty and have a natural sense of balance, symmetry, and proportion. You do everything in good taste, with a sense of style and art. From your home furnishings to your choice of clothing, everything must be aesthetically appealing, not simply functional or utilitarian. <br/> <br/>You also feel that relationships are an art, one that especially interests you and one that you are usually quite skilled at, for you possess tact and acute awareness of other people. Marriage is very significant to you and finding the right person to share your life with is extremely important. Being part of a close couple seems natural to you - you are not an independent loner. Having a partner increases your self-confidence. You do have a tendency, however, to become overly dependent on your partner and perhaps not to develop a clearly defined identity outside of the relationship. Finding the balance between being yourself and blending and uniting with another is a challenge for you. <br/> <br/>Others see you as an agreeable, smooth, harmonious, and "nice" person. Though there may be much more to you, this is the sort of face you show to the world. You possess personal charm and an understated, noncombative manner. Your motto could be "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" for you usually take a friendly, cooperative approach rather than a strong, forceful, I'm-going-to-conquer-the-world attitude." <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 11 replies </div>

mamagaea 2005-12-08T08:15:24Z Michele http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/c9b328fb-9f9b-46d4-8139-e225bbe972c0 2008-07-01T16:35:33Z 2008-06-25T12:50:56Z

<div>i am libra sun, rising, mars...i can not make a decision to save my life! I do have a capricorn moon that grounds me but I think it adds to my incessant worrying....there are good things about all this though :) I am very creative and have lots of people in my life who I love and who love me! Does anyone else share ALOT of libra??</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 2 replies </div>

Michele 2008-06-25T12:50:56Z mamagaea http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/56f7f00e-ceac-431c-abe8-cef0ee1dd2d7 2008-06-26T05:16:49Z 2008-06-22T02:49:46Z

<div>I was speaking with a new friend and he was saying he could totally feel the Libra energy coming from me. I never really know what people mean when they say that. I just take them at their word. What traits do you believe you have that is Libran? Perhaps that can help me identify the Libra within me that seems to just bubble out all the time.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 1 reply </div>

mamagaea 2008-06-22T02:49:46Z mamagaea http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/464a1b4a-a198-44aa-8eba-b322fc3a9cd7 2008-03-14T23:13:56Z 2005-12-08T08:16:02Z

<div>Famous People with Libra Rising: <br/> <br/>Paula Abdul (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Leo) <br/>Jennifer Aniston (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Aries) <br/>Robert Blake (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Scorpio) <br/>Jon Bon Jovi (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Pisces) <br/>Sonny Bono (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Pisces) <br/>Nell Carter (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Leo) <br/>Chevy Chase (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Virgo) <br/>Colette (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Pisces) <br/>Jimmy Connors (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Virgo) <br/>Tim Conway (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Aquarius) <br/>Alice Cooper (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Pisces) <br/>Geena Davis (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Pisces) <br/>Neil Diamond (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Capricorn) <br/>Leonardo DiCaprio (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Scorpio) <br/>T.S. Eliot (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Libra) <br/>Sally Field (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Sagittarius) <br/>Harrison Ford (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Gemini) <br/>Stephen Foster (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Leo) <br/>Redd Foxx (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Scorpio) <br/>Erich Fromm (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Taurus) <br/>Jerry Garcia (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Cancer) <br/>James Garner (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Pisces) <br/>Crystal Gayle (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Aquarius) <br/>Barry Gibb (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Libra) <br/>Andy Griffith (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Aries) <br/>Deidre Hall (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Scorpio) <br/>Anne Heche (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Aries) <br/>Rock Hudson (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Capricorn) <br/>Chrissie Hynde (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Virgo) <br/>Quincy Jones (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Pisces) <br/>Carole King (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Aquarius) <br/>Emeril Lagasse (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Virgo) <br/>Monica Lewinsky (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Leo) <br/>Shari Lewis (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Capricorn) <br/>Courtney Love (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Gemini) <br/>Chad Lowe (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Sagittarius) <br/>Lee Majors (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Pisces) <br/>Gates McFadden (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Pisces) <br/>Ewan McGregor (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Pisces) <br/>Tatum O'Neal (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Scorpio) <br/>Arnold Palmer (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Leo) <br/>Roman Polanski (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Virgo) <br/>Freddie Prinze Jr. (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Aquarius) <br/>John Ritter (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Leo) <br/>Jean-Claude Van Damme (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Scorpio) <br/>Eddie Van Halen (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Sagittarius) <br/>Venus Williams (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Gemini) <br/>Debra Winger (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Aries) <br/>Natalie Wood (Libra Ascendant, Venus in Virgo)</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 9 replies </div>

mamagaea 2005-12-08T08:16:02Z Thomas http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/069aa81f-3c17-49b3-9ebc-8e2927dad42c 2008-03-06T05:03:50Z 2006-04-08T16:30:35Z

<div>Hi! <br/> <br/>I am new to the group. <br/> <br/> <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 31 replies </div>

Thomas 2006-04-08T16:30:35Z fancy_daniel http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/c6d504b8-1866-4fcb-a62a-db41442e8c00 2008-02-11T22:45:15Z 2004-12-20T19:41:46Z

<div>Okay, we're all Libra ascendants. What are your Sun and Moon signs? <br/> <br/>Sun - Cancer <br/>Moon - Aquarius <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 36 replies </div>

fancy_daniel 2004-12-20T19:41:46Z Deborah's http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/b5059cbe-2e62-4533-b46b-373324043ac0 2007-07-14T23:12:07Z 2007-07-14T23:12:07Z

<div>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4 <br/> <br/>xoxoDeborahxoxo</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 0 replies </div>

Deborah's 2007-07-14T23:12:07Z foolishfish http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/d00841d0-b98c-4bee-b614-a7330666704f 2007-07-12T16:17:28Z 2004-12-25T20:44:41Z

<div>this is a variation of the sound off thread. <br/> <br/>A little more revealing is the placement of the ascendents ruler which is venus for all of us with libra ascendent. <br/> <br/>so where is your venus? <br/> <br/>mine is in aries 7th house and the sabian symbol is the music of the spheres <br/> <br/>>&amp;lt;{{{'> &amp;lt;'}}}>&amp;lt;</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 30 replies </div>

foolishfish 2004-12-25T20:44:41Z Deborah's http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/f2b1f27b-3d78-47a6-9b04-b33cf77ac471 2007-07-12T08:22:15Z 2007-06-23T04:31:02Z

<div>Hello Beautiful Beings, <br/>I'm finding that meditating really does helps keep me Balanced with Enlightenment. <br/>Are there any other meditators here? If not, why not? And if so, tell me more! :>) <br/>Pisces/Libra Deborah </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 3 replies </div>

Deborah's 2007-06-23T04:31:02Z Helena http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/7baf2bed-bd62-409e-b030-2be3fffb26e2 2007-06-09T17:29:28Z 2007-06-09T17:29:28Z

<div>Hmm, not sure if this should be a topic or a listing. Discussion on this would be great, though, so here goes: <br/> <br/>There is a brand-new tribe for anybody interested in Human Design. <br/>tribes.tribe.net/hdactivists <br/>What is Human Design? It is a synthesis of Astrology, I'Ching, the Kaballa, and chakra systems. It provides a blue-print of the individual and gives a strategy for each of the four types. Want to find out more? Check out the tribe, or go to www.jovianarchive.com or www.humandesignamerica.com <br/> <br/>I have been studying Design for more than a year, and would love to see the community grow. Does anybody here have any experience with Human Design? I would love to hear about it, if so.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 0 replies </div>

Helena 2007-06-09T17:29:28Z BellaRose http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/8364954f-d393-4a43-beb8-2c09a1eadcb8 2007-03-18T15:28:01Z 2007-02-08T03:07:00Z

<div>Naturally with an Aries Asc., the signs are in the natural houses that they rule... <br/> <br/>So what do you experience being a Libra Asc. and the sign switched to the opposite house? I always thought out of all Asc., Libra is interesting, just in that regard. <br/> <br/>do you think that makes for our rep as 'wishy washy' I don't like the claim, but can understand why it is used. It's hard being able to see every side and view. And Asc. have a double dose it seems of 'seeing it from another view' with the house switch going on. <br/> <br/> thoughts?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 4 replies </div>

BellaRose 2007-02-08T03:07:00Z derick http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/7c04b7fc-8077-4d5b-b0a0-02234d05cedc 2006-05-25T23:53:20Z 2005-09-05T22:04:20Z

<div>Ascendant symbolize rising sun in the morning. As sun rises, so our hopes and dreams. As a general rule, when any of the first six signs of the zodiac is on the ascendant, the person's expression of ego has expansive quality. Libra is seventh sign of the zodiac. Libra ascendant represents the setting sun. At the sunset, we feel exhaustion of personal effort and expression of ego. The light fades and the world comes to submerge into the darkness. We become less certain of who we are. <br/> <br/>M. Schulman wrote: The greatest gift of the Libra ascendant is the ability to give another person himself. In relating to others, you do not offer competition. You see the use of power and force in the world, but are not interested in aligning with it. Where others compete for survival, you can placidly experience a sense of contentment. You know that one cannot punch a feather. The more an individual tries to be more than others, the less he ultimately is to himself; You know that when you are connected to your inner being nothing in the world could possibly hurt or take away from yourself, for you are love, and love is an endless pouring stream that replenishes itself in direct proportion to the amount you allow it to flow. Rather than seeing the world through rose colored glasses, you see artistic and aesthetic possibilities in your environment. You know how to let things be. The beauty of in this sunset ascendant comes, not from feeling the exhaustion of ego, but rather from understanding that you do not need a powerful ego to function harmoniously in the world. <br/> <br/>Libra is ruled by the Venus, the planet of love, harmony and beauty. John Lennon had Libra as his Sun-Sign. Think his song "Imagine". Yes, he would ask you to "imagine." Here, his ego, is not directly expressed. Ultimately how much of love/goodness we can bring into this world depends not on John Lennon's ability to imagine, but on his audiences' abilities to "imagine". The ability need to be with each of us. So he knew, the wisdom of his sun-sign. <br/> <br/>Source(s): Martin Schulman, The Ascendant: Your Karmic Doorway (Samuel Weiser, Inc., York Beach, Maine., 1988) <br/> <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 4 replies </div>

derick 2005-09-05T22:04:20Z Ronnie http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/8c4f4708-5645-4fb8-ad31-2d7cc1c658e1 2006-04-26T05:16:22Z 2006-04-25T20:59:48Z

<div>I am wondering since my ascendant is in libra 29 degree 20 would i still have the affects of the sign or would i be going into the next sign scorpio, and also since i am so close to going into the next sign which ascendant sign would i be most likely to resemble physically?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 1 reply </div>

Ronnie 2006-04-25T20:59:48Z OneE http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/84a1831d-a020-4be1-bf32-baf2706db317 2006-01-31T00:43:20Z 2006-01-15T03:50:09Z

<div>can there be different results between chart analysis? Is there different ways of going about it and where can I get one done? </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 1 reply </div>

OneE 2006-01-15T03:50:09Z AliRose http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/db406ca3-cd0a-4ae8-86bd-bbc10332aa2e 2005-12-07T08:35:42Z 2004-12-25T19:13:18Z

<div>This is a quality about myself I connect directly to my Libra ascendent! In situations around me, I just simply have to find the deeper meaning behind other people's reasoning and decisions!! It takes all of my energy to put that aside and walk away without knowing--something I'm barely if ever able to do. <br/> <br/>The fact that this can be harmful to myself aside. The fact that I sometimes just have to throw up my hands and yell "I'll just never know" aside as well... <br/> <br/>Do you all see this in yourselves as well??</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 7 replies </div>

AliRose 2004-12-25T19:13:18Z mamagaea http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/ada4b962-e40f-4ebb-9dc6-1ead79c0bd5f 2005-12-06T05:43:31Z 2005-11-05T00:54:15Z

<div>I NOMINATE MYSELF! <br/> <br/>Anyone want to run for moderator against me? We could have a campaign, fraudlent campaign spending, lie about other governments to gain supporters. What do you think? <br/> <br/>Mama Gaea <br/>Pisces Sun <br/>Virgo Moon <br/>Libra Rising. :)</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 8 replies </div>

mamagaea 2005-11-05T00:54:15Z derick http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/787021b5-b0f1-4bfc-b743-a1752f2b3515 2005-12-03T00:31:15Z 2005-09-05T21:11:32Z

<div>looking for all information on libra rising......</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 2 replies </div>

derick 2005-09-05T21:11:32Z mamagaea http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/51a6a87a-2c7d-458e-8a35-31df36592666 2005-11-05T00:51:21Z 2005-05-03T02:20:08Z

<div>I've heard that those with Libra Rising like to have adventuresome sex, but also lean towards liking their partner to be in control. What have been your experiences? </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 14 replies </div>

mamagaea 2005-05-03T02:20:08Z Eskander http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/d7219e33-2da0-4e97-8d30-3b5f609ddeb5 2005-09-12T18:51:16Z 2005-08-23T18:57:35Z

<div>anyone share this trate with me? what is your experience being double libra here?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 3 replies </div>

Eskander 2005-08-23T18:57:35Z http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/79c3c0f3-9ec9-425c-9800-974108444ad5 2005-09-08T23:16:57Z 2005-09-07T17:45:58Z

<div>iteresting to see that a few of us from the cap moon tribe are here. <br/>i've much to learn from you ladies, thank you for the relection! <br/> <br/>aurora blue</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 2 replies </div>

2005-09-07T17:45:58Z cyn_thia http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/8c6a1e78-e04c-44a2-a4f1-11046a8ac604 2005-08-17T00:51:20Z 2005-08-12T10:51:53Z

<div>As Libra Ascendant people, we all currently have Jupiter lighting up our 1st house. Which means it should be an excellent time for getting out and being seen and having lucky events appear in our paths. Anybody have a good story to report on how Jupiter has made life easier these past six months?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 1 reply </div>

cyn_thia 2005-08-12T10:51:53Z samanthavanover http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/bdd01e8c-00b2-41d0-9da4-a7dc8375e06c 2005-07-22T05:33:57Z 2005-02-10T22:40:34Z

<div>I have nothing to do, and just wanted to know how is everyone?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 13 replies </div>

samanthavanover 2005-02-10T22:40:34Z ~tstar~ http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/01ffd328-a463-4b07-a255-b2fd92949dd0 2005-07-18T21:48:59Z 2005-05-17T03:35:33Z

<div>here i go again...i am so umph....and then woooow...... <br/>i want to hang out with these guys but then i wanna flutter around, all unattached and free like a bird....i wanna socialize but so free-flowing and i feel like i leadguys on in this way...perhaps a kiss and then i am off to another, i am curious and wondeous and hate the idea of being tied down unless i am in control and it is sexually. help .....libra rising 27'</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 2 replies </div>

~tstar~ 2005-05-17T03:35:33Z samanthavanover http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/724d1ef2-2c4c-4436-aa46-92558a7d0a7b 2005-07-16T01:02:15Z 2005-03-16T05:21:08Z

<div>why don't you people talk in here???? it could be fun if you did!...LOL</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 7 replies </div>

samanthavanover 2005-03-16T05:21:08Z http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/96a85f70-ae1c-4969-9ef8-8de15e445214 2005-04-30T20:08:45Z 2005-03-29T03:25:25Z

<div>How about anyone who has their chart, post it in the album. Those of you who do not can go to www.astro.com and get one for free provided you know your birth date/time/place. <br/> <br/>Also, anyone with astrological tattoos please post them, mine and another's are already up there.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 2 replies </div>

2005-03-29T03:25:25Z http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/10cff5a4-2d4f-4829-9be5-5009401f33c3 2005-04-26T03:18:36Z 2005-03-29T03:23:01Z

<div>Ok, my fellow lazy asses who never speak, I have a question for all of you. Well, more of a comment that I’d like feedback on. <br/> <br/>Being a Leo, I’m already an expert on everything, and beauty is one of them. Now, add the Libra rising and I am one picky bastard, far more picky than I have any right to be, IMO. <br/> <br/>This comes up a lot, at work, out with friends, anywhere really. A pretty girl will walk by and every other male is salivating, but I say “maybe she’s a 7” and they all are aghast at my hubris over what they consider to be a twelve at least! <br/> <br/>I was wondering if any of you are particularly picky, or if not that, maybe just very aware of the aesthetic sense of the opposite sex? Anyone?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 5 replies </div>

2005-03-29T03:23:01Z bruceterrell http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/990a1942-9092-4440-955f-d037cd9871d8 2005-04-24T09:02:55Z 2005-02-14T03:54:32Z

<div>Hello Fellow Tribemates! <br/> <br/>I was thinking today about how I really do not like confronting people even when I really need to. For the Libra Rising aspect of myself maintaining harmony feels super important. Any other tribe members experience this? <br/> <br/>My sun is in Leo, moon in Taurus, venus in Virgo. <br/> <br/>Bruce</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 9 replies </div>

bruceterrell 2005-02-14T03:54:32Z http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/795bbb87-6f09-4095-a6c9-8e77d01b1342 2005-02-05T03:09:55Z 2005-02-04T04:58:51Z

<div>Hopefully I can get some life back into this tribe! I'm going to invite all libra ascendents I can find into this tribe, and I'd ask all of you to do the same if you don't mind. Also be encouraged to post anything relevent to the subject, any questions, any views. </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 2 replies </div>

2005-02-04T04:58:51Z http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/1ad512bd-eea1-4250-a311-e63a3f54f1e0 2005-01-31T18:51:46Z 2004-12-24T02:01:54Z

<div>Um, why don't we have one, and what happened to the old one?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 8 replies </div>

2004-12-24T02:01:54Z mamagaea http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/ca635345-0d7d-4536-b2a6-5b540229fc15 2005-01-19T18:56:23Z 2004-08-20T04:52:07Z

<div>The last post was way back in March? How sad is that. Sure, there are only 24 members. But look at the postings so far. People just come here to read about themselves, and then go away. <br/> <br/>Here's a good question. I am Pisces/Virgo/Libra. <br/> <br/>What are you? <br/> <br/>Mama Gaea</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 22 replies </div>

mamagaea 2004-08-20T04:52:07Z mamagaea http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/31836501-f031-4fe3-9dee-e5689f35f692 2005-01-19T16:40:33Z 2004-12-20T07:26:58Z

<div>You do have a tendency, however, to become overly dependent on your partner and perhaps not to develop a clearly defined identity outside of the relationship. Finding the balance between being yourself and blending and uniting with another is a challenge for you. <br/> <br/> <br/>The above excerpt was from the first post to this tribe describing Libra Rising. I have discovered over my last 3 relationships that when I fall in love with someone or commit myself to someone, I lose myself in that person and want only to please them, do everything for them. Do other Libra risings have that problem?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 11 replies </div>

mamagaea 2004-12-20T07:26:58Z http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/20c3c6f4-2486-42bd-ace8-88a29f7805b7 2004-12-20T07:21:31Z 2004-12-06T03:59:30Z

<div>Hi, just thought I'd barge in and wake up a sleepy tribe. Yeah, I'm obnoxious like that. I do have a libra ascendant though, so it's fair, right?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 4 replies </div>

2004-12-06T03:59:30Z AliRose http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/3bb25a58-c54c-479e-87b1-2dffe1287893 2004-12-15T00:59:02Z 2004-12-14T04:48:21Z

<div>Anyone have something kinda odd to show their sign(s)? In the picture section I posted my last tat with is right on a cute little ass cheek. It's my three signs morphed together. Silly silly I know...but it's something that'll never change for me obviously.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 4 replies </div>

AliRose 2004-12-14T04:48:21Z mamagaea http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/b2ee7669-17d4-464c-a1cd-7a95270a8468 2004-12-12T18:07:35Z 2004-12-11T01:15:24Z

<div>So, I was curious how energy effects each of us. I was in a friends house the other day and she had admitted to me she had done a lot of energy work to make the space as positive as possible. I noticed that I just kept talking and talking and talking. When stepped outside, the energy became instantly more heavy. I feel that the energy of her place contributed to me talking so much, activating the airy qualities of my Libra Rising. <br/> <br/>So, has anyone else noticed energies of different places effecting them in different ways?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 4 replies </div>

mamagaea 2004-12-11T01:15:24Z uncontrollable_laughter http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/8710e6d5-7776-44f1-8494-76c810bc8985 2004-10-20T19:42:34Z 2004-08-20T07:22:54Z

<div>I am a Cancer with a Pisces moon. I have Libra rising with Pluto closely conjunct my Ascendant. I suppose that means I appear politely forceful. Anyone else in my generation have Pluto in your first house or near your ascendant? What's it like for you?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 5 replies </div>

uncontrollable_laughter 2004-08-20T07:22:54Z foolishfish http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/99ee9c3e-15db-41a6-b7a8-e93612bfc0c0 2004-09-23T00:00:27Z 2004-09-22T23:27:14Z

<div>(Bernice Grebner) <br/> <br/>First Decanate (Libra-Libra): Because they want to be liked by everyone, they tend to agree too easily. Their self-projection into activity seems conditional on others. They seem to play their act through more aggressive individuals. They dislike being alone. They usually can't make a stand on something on their own because they want peace and want to be fair. However, there is another type of Libra-Libra Ascendant who can't do anything without dragging a lot of other people into it on their side. They find themselves when they find their partners. <br/> <br/>With Aries-Aries on the 7th house cusp, they learn to associate with a partner and to try to understand what partnerships are all about. The person needs to learn to adjust to the partner's desires also, learning that they both need to come to some kind of balance in the relationship. They develop refinement with this position and become peaceful and loving. When they find their partner, they find themselves. <br/> <br/>Second Decanate (Libra-Aquarius): They project charm and sociability and a desire to please people. Even so, they retain an independence that doesn't show at first. In love, they are ruled by their minds rather than their hearts. Their natures are very creative, and their creative talents show very original flairs. While they need partners for their personal self-projection to be more effective, they have a tendency to fluctuate between being attached and being detached, which doesn't exactly give lasting success in this department of their lives. <br/> <br/>With Aries-Leo on the 7th house cusp, there can be arguments with a marriage partner even though this person really does not want to fight. In fact, there may be arguments concerning his or her friends (perhaps there are too many friends). The arguments come because the 7th house individual sticks up for his or her rights, and possibly the rights of the friends. <br/> <br/>Third Decanate (Libra-Gemini): Self-projection is refined and expressive. They can talk to anyone. They can be persuasive lecturers; and even though they may dabble in the ideas they present, it sounds as if they know a great deal more than they do. It is a placement where they know how to gesture and express in order to make a point. <br/> <br/>With Aries-Sagittarius on the 7th house cusp, the partner will need to want to be on the top. There will be much coming and going. People with this placement must understand themslves in their relationship to partners (and their desires) in order to retain a certain measure of freedom in marriage, or they will suffer greatly psychologically. <br/> <br/>(Sepharial and Muchery) <br/> <br/>First Decanate: A genial but weak nature, easily influenced by women, and disposed to extravagance and unsteady habits; clever in general business matters, frequently changing his pursuits or position; a changeful and restless mind, halting between two courses; gains honour and position by public business, and has a chance of acquiring some property in land or houses. <br/> <br/>Second Decanate: Griefs and troubles are shown, but success in the end of life. The native falls and rises in life from his own fault or merit. Fondness for the home life and steadfastness in the affections are characteristics of this decan. In most cases the native is poor, and has some troubles in the marriage state. <br/> <br/>Third Decanate: A generous, kind, and amiable nature; well-balanced and fruitful mind; happy marriage and much wealth; many journeys; faithful friend and generous enemy. The native is beloved for his justice and probity. <br/> <br/>Physical Qualities: Libra gives a tall, elegant figure, slim but gaining flesh towards the prime of life; well-formed hips; and fair skin, which becomes ruddy or pimpled in mature years. (In later life the native inclines to stoutness, and the once pleasant and comely face becomes blotchy through faulty digestion or kidney trouble.) The fine hair may be fair / light or chestnut / brown in color; the teeth and finger nails are good. Frequently the hair of a man of this sign is parted in the middle or nearer the centre than the side of the head. The face is rounded and comely, with a pink-and-white complexion. The nose may be smallish but tends to be long and straight; Grecian-type. The gait is well-balanced. The eyes are bright and compelling, dark-blue or black, with long and silky lashes. There is usually little physical courage. <br/> <br/>Mental Qualities: Genial, kind nature, happy disposition; fond of show and of approbation; just, persuasive, imitative; artistic, neat, and orderly; amorous but fickle. Libra gives fine intellectual qualities, and a certain degree of ambition, especially in a feminine horoscope. The character is even, kindly, gentle, well-balanced, artistic; and the native will succeed without great difficulty. This position inclines to early marriage. Libra does not usually give great physical courage, as the native can obtain what he wants without much exertion. <br/> <br/>(Frances Sakoian and Louis Acker) <br/> <br/>Libras project their individuality through co-operation with other people; their personalities must be focused on and mirrored in those with whom they co-operate. Their actions express beauty and grace, along with discipline, sternness, and a strong sense of justice. Their strongest virtue is their ability to see any matter from the viewpoint of the people with whom they are dealing. Libras do not like to be alone; they feel lost when they are forced to rely entirely on themselves. <br/> <br/>With Aries on the 7th house cusp, Libras can be aggresssive in order to gain the co-operation and attention of others. They also have the power to motivate other people into action without their being aware of it. The partners of any Libras must understand that if they want peace they must maintain a high activity level and work hard. <br/> <br/>(Dane Rudhyar) <br/> <br/>When Libra rises and Aries sets at birth, the individual tends to be a field of operation for collective urges and group ideals, for it is in terms of group activity, or at least in terms of a strong and idealized partnership, that the individual will learn what and who he is. This does not at all mean that the person will be 'balanced' - the Libran symbol of 'the Balance' is not relaly understood by astrologers - but rather that he will be much concerned by his social or cultural role, by the value of his acts of self-expression. It will not be easy for him to find himself in aloneness, and he may experience insecurity and inner confusion until he has found his place in some kind of group or society which he intuitively feels to be where he really belongs. <br/> <br/>This person will need an individualistic, self-actualizing, emotional partner to help him find himself through their relationship. This may mean at times forcing one's way into a partnership in a rather adolescent manner, or rushing into a devotional commitment to a person - or a personalized cause - in relationship to whom the individual with the Libra Ascendant can display his capacity for group organization and social, cultural or religious enjoyment. Any group experience requires the catalytic presence of an individualized vision or release of energy. <br/> <br/>(Howard Sasportas) <br/> <br/>Whereas Aries rising calls for wilful, decisive and self-assertive action, Libra on the Ascendant requires deliberation and carefully chosen action based on an objective and fair assessment of any situation. In other words what others need or want will have to be taken into consideration. Reflective judgement is a keynote for this Ascendant: various alternatives are weighted in the balance, and the most appropriate mode of being or acting is selected. However, the capacity to see another person's point of view as well as the ability to look at any situation from all its sides can be crippling to action. Hence the vacillation, the indecisiveness, and the sitting-on-the-fence reputation of Libra rising. <br/> <br/>Choices are more easily made if we have a system of values on which to base them. The responsibility to establish a set of values, standards and ideals upon which action can be gauged rests heavily on the shoulders of this Ascendant. It would be so easy just to let another person decide for him / her. And even if Libra rising bases its actions on what is believed to be true and just, is there any guarantee that it will all work out beautifully in the end? A friend of mine is an avid sun-worshipper. On those rare days when the sun shines clearly and brightly in England, rather than spending the day at home in her back garden, she acts on her better judgement and dutifully drives to the office. As a reward we might reasonably expect that 'the gods' should smile down on her for such an honourable decision. But why does it always rain on her day off? Libra rising must learn to make choices and then to take the consequences for them. <br/> <br/>Libra rising also means striking a balance between the 'masculine' and 'feminine' sides of life, between mystical urges and practical notions, between 'head' and 'heart', intuition and logic, and most of all between what we want and need and what others want and need. Libra on the Ascendant searches for the perfect relationship, the ideal philosophy, and for that which is harmonious and pleasing. There is often an interest in the arts and an attraction to such abstract systems as politics or mathematics, which offer symmetry and completeness of concept. Many of Libra rising's beliefs and ideals may be too high-minded in relation to the harsher realities of life. At the same time, this Ascendant can be very critical when something does not meet what is desired or expected. And those with this placement can be very tough: 'In the name of harmony you had better see it my way or else'. (Could this be Aries creeping in?) <br/> <br/>Relationships are very important to Libra rising, and needed for personal evolution and growth. If Libra is on the Ascendant, then Aries is on the Descendant. In one sense, meeting Aries in the sphere of life associated with the partner elicits Libran qualities. If a partner is strongly self-centred and assertive (an Aries type), then the Libran Ascendant will have to learn to adjust and make concessions. However, if the other person becomes too unfair, pushy and demanding, then Libra rising learns to stand up for the self and demand the Libran traits of equality and balance. Opposites have a way of turning you into one another. If the Libran Ascendant doesn't like the way you are running the show, you will soon know. Libra will fight for its philosophy or political ideals with ferocity, quashing whatever doesn't fit into its vision of harmony and perfection. <br/> <br/>Most textbooks attribute Libra rising with physical charm and a well-proportioned body, but with the stipulation that there is a tendency to put on weight due to laziness or over-indulgence. Air signs on the Ascendant generally have a refined rather than coarse look about them.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 2 replies </div>

foolishfish 2004-09-22T23:27:14Z foolishfish http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/8d137fc0-d449-4a8b-9f73-114c1c605e7c 2004-09-22T23:23:41Z 2004-09-22T23:23:41Z

<div>sure is quiet in here... <br/> <br/>>&amp;lt;{{{'> . &amp;lt;'}}}>&amp;lt;</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 0 replies </div>

foolishfish 2004-09-22T23:23:41Z http://libraascendant.tribe.net/thread/a675edc4-5e11-4022-bf4e-a012bfdb7396 2004-03-21T08:45:47Z 2004-03-21T08:00:28Z

<div>You are a natural diplomat, reasonable, tolerant, fair, always willing to listen to varying viewpoints, and ready to see the other side of an issue. Even if you strongly disagree with someone, you will try to find points of similarity and agreement rather than emphasizing the differences. You often avoid taking an extreme or one-sided stance on anything. You have a strong desire for harmonious and pleasant relationships, and express a spirit of cooperation, compromise, friendship, and fairness. You very much want to be liked and because of your need for approval and acceptance, you are easily influenced by others' opinions, especially when young. You so much want to please that often you will suppress your own intense or unpleasant feelings in order not to offend others. Sometimes your politeness is interpreted as phoniness or wishy-washiness. <br/> <br/> Your need to create harmony extends to your physical environment and personal appearance as well. You appreciate beauty and have a natural sense of balance, symmetry, and proportion. You do everything in good taste, with a sense of style and art. From your home furnishings to your choice of clothing, everything must be aesthetically appealing, not simply functional or utilitarian. <br/> <br/> You also feel that relationships are an art, one that especially interests you and one that you are usually quite skilled at, for you possess tact and acute awareness of other people. Marriage is very significant to you and finding the right person to share your life with is extremely important. Being part of a close couple seems natural to you - you are not an independent loner. Having a partner increases your self-confidence. You do have a tendency, however, to become overly dependent on your partner and perhaps not to develop a clearly defined identity outside of the relationship. Finding the balance between being yourself and blending and uniting with another is a challenge for you. <br/> <br/> Others see you as an agreeable, smooth, harmonious, and "nice" person. Though there may be much more to you, this is the sort of face you show to the world. You possess personal charm and an understated, noncombative manner. Your motto could be "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" for you usually take a friendly, cooperative approach rather than a strong, forceful, I'm-going-to-conquer-the-world attitude. <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://libraascendant.tribe.net">Libra Ascendant</a> - 1 reply </div>

2004-03-21T08:00:28Z